"It’s time to stop denying science. Extreme events like the wildfires in Colorado and the floods in Florida are going to get worse unless the Republican-controlled Congress changes course soon,” (Rep. Henry) Waxman said in a statement."
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Asked how to overcome global warming skepticism, top ClimateGate figure Jones said, 'Make more of Greek fires,' though some were 'started deliberately:"
On 9/6/2007, ClimateGate Director Phil Jones was asked by European Peoples Party official Kremer for advice on overcoming global warming skepticism. Among Jones' suggestions via email was "to make more out of the Greek fires" even though "some may have been started deliberately."
11/23/11, "Climategate 2.0: Jones says 2-degree C limit ‘plucked out of thin air’," Junk Science, Steve Milloy
"From the Climategate 2.0 collection, to a European Peoples Party official who is trying to eliminate skepticism from the EPP’s position paper on climate....
The e-mail exchange is below:...
"—–Original Message—–
From: Phil Jones [mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk]
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 6:40 PM
To: ckremer@epp.eu
Subject: Re: EPP Document on Climate Change
Christian,
There is not a lot wrong with the science part of your document (the first 10pp).
It is, after all, based on the IPCC Reports from earlier this year....A few thoughts....perhaps you need to make more of the Greek fires. I know
some may have been started deliberately, but the conditions made them
worse. There might be some monetary costs of these (in addition to the human deaths),
as well as saying what resources will be needed to replant and how long
it is going to take (>30 years probably) to get the forests back.
Cheers
Phil...
Christian Kremer
Deputy Secretary General
European People’s Party
Handelsstraat 10
B-1000 Brussels
phone +32-2-285.41.48
fax +32-2-285.41.41
[1]ckremer@epp.eu
[2]www.epp.eu"
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May 2012 Colorado wildfire started by forest camp stove of CSU staffer, no cell phone service in area to call for help to put out fire:
5/19/12, ""Feds say Colorado wildfire started on camp stove," AP, via CNS News
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June 2012 Colorado wildfires set by human, Southwest US official says most wildfires are set by humans
6/13/12, "Park County wildfire set by human," ColoradoConnection.com
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6/5/12, "Lightning blamed for northern Colorado wildfire," AP via ColoradoConnection.com
"Larimer County sheriff's officials say lightning started a 227-acre wildfire that has damaged two outbuildings in northern Colorado....
In eastern Colorado, authorities think a cigarette thrown from a passing car may have ignited a 4-acre fire near Akron."...
-----------------------------------------2011 largest fire in Arizona history was caused by abandoned campfire in a forest not CO2. 2 men charged:
8/24/11, "Feds charge 2 in devastating Wallow fire," AP, East Valley Tribune
"Federal charges have been filed against two cousins accused of accidentally causing the largest forest fire in Arizona's history by leaving a campfire unattended."...
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US had fleet of 44 firefighting planes 10 yrs. ago, now down to 9, Obama has known this since Jan. 2009, even canceled air tanker contract in 2011:
6/20/12, "How Obama Bureaucrats Fueled Western Wildfires," Michelle Malkin, Townhall.com, Colorado Springs, Colorado
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The federal government says "it can't afford to" do life-saving necessary thinning.
6/20/12, "Forest-thinning strategy credited for saving Alpine from 2011 fire," Arizona Republic, S. McKinnon
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6/5/12, "Politician should check her research," Las Vegas Sun, Letter to the Editor, Sanford Cohen, Prescott, Ariz.
"On the Fort Apache Indian Reservation, where thinning is practiced, the tribal lands are in far better shape."
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Al Qaeda magazine suggests starting huge forest fires in the US, says wooded areas like Montana are good:
5/2/12, "Al Qaeda Magazine Calls for Firebomb Campaign in US," ABC News, R. Kreider
"The men who launched al Qaeda's English-language magazine may have died in a U.S. missile strike last fall, but "Inspire" magazine lives on without them -- and continues to promote jihadi attacks on Western targets, offering detailed advice on how to start huge forest fires in America with timed explosives and how to build remote-controlled bombs....
But issue nine carries equally lethal advice, with "It Is of Your Freedom to Ignite a Firebomb," which gives detailed instructions on how to ignite an "ember bomb" in a U.S. forest, recommending Montana because of the rapid population growth in wooded areas.
"In America, there are more houses built in the [countryside] than in the cities," says the writer, who uses the pseudonym The AQ Chef. "It is difficult to choose a better place [than] in the valleys of Montana."
Issue eight has an eight-page article on how to construct remote-controlled explosives, with a laundry list of parts and ingredients and photos showing proper assembly."...
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July/August 2011, "Terrorists in the Woods," Wildfire Magazine, Dick Mangan
"Ever since Sept. 11, 2001, much of the world's focus has been on the issue of terrorism. The tragic deaths of thousands of Americans in New York, Pennsylvania and Washington, D.C., coupled with hundreds of deaths in Spain and Bali at the hands of terrorists, has led to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the creation of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, and the expenditure of billions of dollars (that's billions with a capital “B”) to improve security and reduce the risks from terrorists and their weapons of mass destruction.
The massive increases in the federal budget for protection from terrorism mostly have been sent to police and structural fire departments. But what about the threat of terrorist-caused wildland fires in our forests, community watersheds and wildland-urban interface? Who's worried about that threat, what are they doing about it, and how much is being spent to fund the efforts to prevent it?
The history of fire as a tool of warfare is well-documented: Native Americans used fire against their enemies, both other tribes and the expanding Europeans; the Aboriginal people of Australia used fire to discourage the incursion of the British settlers onto their island. In World War II, the Japanese launched “fire balloons” against the western United States. While largely unsuccessful, they started a few fires and killed six people in Oregon. The Palestinians in the latter half of the 20th century used fire to try to destroy Israel's carefully planted pine plantations....The real question that lingers for fire managers at risk from terrorists is what are you planning to do to prevent terrorist-ignited wildfires intended to destroy resources, kill innocent civilians and disrupt normal life? Are you prepared to deal with multiple terrorist-ignited wildfires under the worst possible conditions?
Legislators in the countries that are being targeted by terrorists: What are you going to do to ensure that the wildland fire agencies in your areas are trained, equipped and financed to address these threats?"=============================
Trillions are strangled out of ordinary Americans and their economy but we're berated 24/7 for "not taking action" on an imaginary 'climate' problem:
In the US, "compliance with such (EPA) regulations costs the U.S. economy more than $1.75 trillion per year." And $55.4 billion more in policing and administration. EPA's prohibition on light bulbs will cost $10.9 billion a year:
8/23/11, "The Alarming Cost Of Climate Change Hysteria," Forbes, Larry Bell
"The U.S. Government Accounting Office (GAO) can’t figure out what benefits taxpayers are getting from the many billions of dollars spent each year on policies that are purportedly aimed at addressing climate change.
A May 20 report noted that while annual federal funding for such activities has been increasing substantially, there is a lack of shared understanding of strategic priorities among the various responsible agency officials. This assessment agrees with the conclusions of a 2008 Congressional Research Service analysis which found no “overarching policy goal for climate change that guides the programs funded or the priorities among programs.”
According to the GAO, annual federal climate spending has increased from $4.6 billion in 2003 to $8.8 billion in 2010, amounting- to $106.7 billion over that period. "...
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Southwest droughts caused by particulate matter from Asia, not by CO2 and not even by Americans:
5/18/12, "CO2 Not to Blame for Southwest Droughts?" World Climate Report
"According to Allen et al.:
The authors argue that there is a good likelihood that black carbon emissions have been underestimated—especially those arising from Southeast Asia....“Our analysis strongly suggests that recent Northern Hemisphere tropical expansion is driven mainly by black carbon and tropospheric ozone, with greenhouse gases playing a smaller part.”...
The bottom line is that the primary influences on a major component of the earth’s atmospheric circulation and thus general weather patterns turns out to be, on further examination, not atmospheric greenhouse gas concentration changes, but rather black carbon (soot) and tropospheric ozone. And one impact from the forced atmospheric circulation changes is a tendency for more aridity across the Southwestern U.S."...
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Waxman and others constantly say we aren't doing anything about 'climate.' This is a lie, but the average American doesn't know that. Climate is a multi-trillion dollar industry. For certain people nothing is ever enough:
via Climate Depot
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