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Friday, July 23, 2021

Covid vaccines and polio vaccines aren’t comparable. Covid vaccines aren’t FDA approved and don’t claim to prevent transmission to others. Polio vaccines were approved and licensed by US government

CNN, 7/22/21, “[US Senator Mitch] McConnell noted that he is a victim of polio, for which a vaccine took decades to develop, and said, “It never occurred to me, after three highly effective [Covid] vaccines were developed in under a year, that we’d have difficulty getting Americans to take the shots. But that’s obviously where we are.””…Unlike Covid vaccines, which aren’t FDA approved and don’t claim to prevent transmission to others, polio vaccines in 1955 and 1960 were approved and licensed by the US government....Per FDA, 2/27/21: “At this time, data are not available to determine how long the vaccine will provide protection, nor is there evidence that the vaccine prevents transmission of SARS-CoV-2 from person to person.” And 12/11/20...The Salk polio vaccine in 1955 and Sabin polio vaccine in 1960 were approved and licensed by the US government. “The Salk vaccine was licensed for use on April 12, 1955.Polio is an incurable infectious disease that can spread person to person, caused by a virus that invades the brain and spinal cord.” 

12/7/2020, Yes, some Americans may be required to get a COVID-19 vaccine but not by the federal government," USA Today, Grace Hauck

“Employers and states may condition return or access to workplaces, schools and colleges upon getting the vaccine and mandate it once the FDA issues full approval, potentially months later.

“It’s much more likely that a private organization or company will require you to be vaccinated to get certain access to places,” said Arthur Caplan, a professor of bioethics at the New York University Grossman School of Medicine. “People worry about the president, governor, or county executive telling them what to do. I don’t think that’s going to happen.”

At an August [2020] town hall hosted by Healthline, Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said the vaccine won’t be mandatory in the U.S. “I don’t think you’ll ever see a mandating of vaccine, particularly for the general public,” Fauci said. “If someone refuses the vaccine in the general public, then there’s nothing you can do about that. You cannot force someone to take a vaccine.”

And on Friday, President-elect Joe Biden told reporters that he would not make vaccinations mandatory. “But I would do everything in my power – just like I don’t think masks have to be made mandatory nationwide – I’ll do everything in my power as president of the United States to encourage people to do the right thing,” Biden said.

Historically, states have had the power to mandate vaccinations. In 1905, as smallpox was spreading through Massachusetts, the Supreme Court upheld the authority of states to enforce compulsory vaccination laws in the case of Jacobson v. Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

“There’s a long history in our constitution that permits the state to act for public health and safety, and that has always included [licensed and fully approved] vaccination,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the O’Neill Institute for National and Global Health Law at Georgetown University.

“But although they have the power, I think it will be very unlikely that they will exercise that power,” he said. “They would be fearful of causing a backlash and politicizing the vaccine.”

It’s more likely that vaccination requirements will play out as they have in the past. Once fully approved by the FDA, a vaccine may eventually be required for children in public and private schools and day care settings, for college and university students, and for some health care workers and patients, Gostin said.”…

[Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has explained before that while there is no guarantee of a safe and effective COVID-19 vaccine, there is no reason to think a vaccine cannot be developed,” FactCheck.org, 8/21/20, Update, 6/29/21]

(continuing): “All 50 states and Washington, D.C., have laws requiring certain vaccines for students, and exemptions vary by state. All states grant exemptions to children for medical reasons, 45 states grant religious exemptions, and 15 allow philosophical exemptions for those who object to immunizations because of personal, moral, or other beliefs, according to the National Conference of Legislatures.

Health care facilities across the country are increasingly requiring health care workers to be vaccinated against various diseases, and some facilities are adding these requirements due to mandates in state statutes and regulations, according to the CDC.

When it comes to the flu, 24 states have flu vaccination requirements for long-term care facility health care workers, and 32 have them for long-term care facility patients, according to the CDC. As of 2016, 18 states had flu vaccination requirements for hospital health care workers.

Other employers also require certain vaccinations.

“Will the general public be required to get it? That’s highly unlikely. That’s not the American tradition or culture,” said Peter Meyers, professor emeritus at the George Washington University law school and former director of the school’s vaccine injury litigation clinic.

“We recommend it. We make it as easy as possible to get it. We make it free. If enough people take it, we’ll have herd immunity.””…

[Re: The power of permanent, natural Herd Immunity: In 1977 H1N1 flu pandemic spread rapidly worldwide but was limited to people under age 20. Persons born before 1957 had previously been exposed so acquired natural immunity]

(continuing): “But officials have mandated [fully approved] vaccines beyond school and employment settings in the past. Following a 2019 measles outbreak in Brooklyn’s Williamsburg neighborhood fueled by a growing movement against vaccinations, New York City ordered mandatory measles vaccinations for anyone living, working, or going to school in four ZIP codes in the neighborhood.

The order required all unvaccinated people who may have been exposed to the virus to get the vaccine, including children over 6 months old, unless immune or medically exempt. The city first threatened civil and criminal repercussions but eventually settled on a $1,000 fine. A Brooklyn judge upheld the order.

That order was for a vaccine that had been fully licensed by the FDA.

The two coronavirus vaccines currently under review would be “authorized” by the agency based on early data, at the discretion of FDA scientists.

The FDA only ever issued an emergency use authorization, known as an EUA, for a vaccine once before  for an anthrax vaccine in 2005.

If authorized [but not fully approved], a coronavirus vaccine’s EUA status would make legal questions about theoretical mandates in the immediate future more complicated. There are also logistical issues of supply and distribution. There’s no data on how vaccine candidates affect children or pregnant people

And it’s still unclear if the vaccines prevent the transmission of the virus, in addition to preventing the disease.

“Institutions may require individuals to take an FDA-approved vaccine or apply for an exception. However, EUA products are still considered investigational," FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn told USA TODAY last week.  

It’s unclear whether schools or employers could legally mandate a vaccine under an EUA, said Dorit Reiss, a professor at the University of California Hastings College of Law. She submitted comment to the FDA requesting that the agency’s EUA documentation offer guidance on the question of mandates.

In the past, members of the FDA and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have said that employers cannot require a vaccine under EUA, Reiss said.

But the Secretary of Health and Human Services, under the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, can establish the conditions of an EUA, including whether people have the option to accept or refuse the vaccine, and the consequences of doing so, if any.

“I’m sure no government will be requiring anything in the short run as long as we’re operating under EUA,” Caplan said. “It would be very strange to require something that hasn’t been licensed or approved. The military could certainly require things, but for civilians, no.”

When a coronavirus vaccine is first authorized and then eventually approved by the FDA, it may well take years before it becomes a requirement for schoolchildren or anyone, said Dr. Howard Koh, a professor at the Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health and former Assistant Secretary for Health under Barack Obama.

“For every vaccine that’s new, it takes a while to gain familiarity and general acceptance. Much of that involves assuring the effectiveness of the long-term safety profile. There’s a comfort level that should be reached by everyone – parents, families, employees. That process is going to take time,” he said.

Some companies in industries that present a high risk of transmitting the virus – such restaurants, gyms, salons, meatpacking, pro sports and nursing homes – may also eventually require vaccinations for their employees, Caplan said. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration has previously said employers have the right to mandate flu vaccines, but employees can request medical or religious exemptions.

“You could face a situation where your income is dependent on getting a vaccine,” said Robert Field, law and public health professor at Drexel University.

If employers in service industries required vaccinations for employees, once a vaccine is licensed, they would “have a strong argument that termination would be objectively fair,” Field said. For the time being, Field said he expects employers to avoid the legal risks of mandating a vaccine that has not been licensed.

The best strategic approach to promote vaccination is to maximize communication and minimize barriers, said Ross Silverman, a professor at Indiana University’s Richard M. Fairbanks School of Public Health and Robert H. McKinney School of Law….

The question, for now, isn’t who has to be vaccinated but who gets to be, said Michelle Mello, a professor at Stanford Law School.

“Most people will come around, so I’m not even sure that we even need to have a conversation about mandates,” Mello said. “If it’s eight months from now and we’ve got ample supply and we’ve run through all the people who wanted to get the vaccine, and we’re still nowhere near herd immunity, it may be a different conversation.””

 

 

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